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	<description>wellington, new zealand</description>
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		<title>Comment on Basin flyover: Live council decision blog by ben</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2011/10/06/basin-flyover-live-council-decision-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-4270</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just do it YOLO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just do it YOLO</p>
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		<title>Comment on Basin flyover: Live council decision blog by ben</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2011/10/06/basin-flyover-live-council-decision-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eat a dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eat a dick</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light Rail could be Cheap as Chips! by Matt</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/03/21/light-rail-could-be-cheap-as-chips/comment-page-1/#comment-4268</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 09:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could you not just have the tracks raised above the ground?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could you not just have the tracks raised above the ground?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wellington 2040: A smart green city &#8211; a &#8220;freakin fantastic&#8221; idea by Scott</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2011/06/16/wellington-2040-a-smart-green-city-a-freakin-fantastic-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 05:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds a lot like the plans for central Christchurch both pre and post quakes. Check out the Public Space Public Life report prepared for Christchurch by Jan Gehl&#039;s team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds a lot like the plans for central Christchurch both pre and post quakes. Check out the Public Space Public Life report prepared for Christchurch by Jan Gehl&#8217;s team.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knox Church by Steve</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/02/20/knox-church/comment-page-1/#comment-4266</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the side entrance, once beautifully ornate, now resembles an emergency exit from a multi-screen cinema in a suburban mall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the side entrance, once beautifully ornate, now resembles an emergency exit from a multi-screen cinema in a suburban mall.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Knox Church by Steve</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/02/20/knox-church/comment-page-1/#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 02:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord this looks like a barn conversion. Like a tilt-slab, brutalist barn conversion that Warren &amp; Mahoney might have come up with if sombody had physically MADE them do gables. And what&#039;s that bay window all about? Looks like a cafe from an industrial estate. All it needs is a poster in the window advertising &#039;HOT CHUPS&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord this looks like a barn conversion. Like a tilt-slab, brutalist barn conversion that Warren &amp; Mahoney might have come up with if sombody had physically MADE them do gables. And what&#8217;s that bay window all about? Looks like a cafe from an industrial estate. All it needs is a poster in the window advertising &#8216;HOT CHUPS&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christchurch Cathedral to be demolished?! by chris moller</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/03/02/christchurch-cathedral-to-be-demolished/comment-page-1/#comment-4259</link>
		<dc:creator>chris moller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 05:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christchurch and beyond.... 
I submit my latest click-raft blog entry in response ..
http://click-raft.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/from-christchurch-cathedral-to-desform.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christchurch and beyond&#8230;.<br />
I submit my latest click-raft blog entry in response ..<br />
<a href="http://click-raft.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/from-christchurch-cathedral-to-desform.html" rel="nofollow">http://click-raft.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/from-christchurch-cathedral-to-desform.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Death of Post-Modernism by Frank B Redman</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/01/10/the-death-of-post-modernism/comment-page-1/#comment-4255</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank B Redman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as how you&#039;re all keen on Post Modernism and all...  have a read of this - the second coming has started!
http://archrecord.construction.com/yb/ar/article.aspx?story_id=171216654

The Humana Building, Michael Graves&#039;s Postmodern Gem Reconsidered
04/08/2012   Chicago Tribune   By Blair Kamin

&quot;Much has happened to the art of skyscraper design in the 30 years since architect Michael Graves won the design competition that led to the construction of the quintessentially postmodern Humana Building here, not the least of which is that postmodernism itself fell into disrepute.

Critics savaged the style, which reacted against the austerity of modernist steel and glass boxes, for producing a pastiche of historical references -- a column tacked on here, a pediment there. Architects like Frank Gehry have since moved in a new direction, using the computer to conjure sleek sculptural forms that would have been unthinkable three decades ago.

But postmodernism deserves a more sophisticated reappraisal, one that carefully separates its masterpieces from its mediocrities and clarifies its contributions to the long-term arc of design. That&#039;s the conclusion I reached after a recent tour of the Humana Building. While the building has undeniable flaws, they are easily outweighed by its attributes, which have only grown stronger with time.

To put this 27-story office headquarters -- originally built for $60 million -- into perspective, it is helpful to recall the state of architecture in the early 1980s, when postmodernism was at the height of its influence and architects were in full revolt against the abstract forms of commercial modernism.

Philip Johnson had shocked the architecture world in 1978 when he released the design for the AT&amp;T Building (now Sony Tower) in Manhattan, which resembled a Chippendale highboy. In 1983, New York architects Kohn Pedersen Fox took the epicenter of the glass box, Chicago, by storm with their 333 W. Wacker Drive tower and its elegantly curving wall of green glass along the Chicago River.

Graves, a relatively obscure architect and teacher at Princeton University, was vaulted to stardom in 1980 when he won an international competition for the Portland Public Service Building, a highly decorated box whose design would be seriously compromised by a tight budget. In Humana, a booming hospital company that is now a health insurance provider, he found a client whose ambitions -- and resources -- were an ideal match for his philosophy of contextual design, which called for buildings to reflect their urban surroundings.....&quot;
and so it continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as how you&#8217;re all keen on Post Modernism and all&#8230;  have a read of this &#8211; the second coming has started!<br />
<a href="http://archrecord.construction.com/yb/ar/article.aspx?story_id=171216654" rel="nofollow">http://archrecord.construction.com/yb/ar/article.aspx?story_id=171216654</a></p>
<p>The Humana Building, Michael Graves&#8217;s Postmodern Gem Reconsidered<br />
04/08/2012   Chicago Tribune   By Blair Kamin</p>
<p>&#8220;Much has happened to the art of skyscraper design in the 30 years since architect Michael Graves won the design competition that led to the construction of the quintessentially postmodern Humana Building here, not the least of which is that postmodernism itself fell into disrepute.</p>
<p>Critics savaged the style, which reacted against the austerity of modernist steel and glass boxes, for producing a pastiche of historical references &#8212; a column tacked on here, a pediment there. Architects like Frank Gehry have since moved in a new direction, using the computer to conjure sleek sculptural forms that would have been unthinkable three decades ago.</p>
<p>But postmodernism deserves a more sophisticated reappraisal, one that carefully separates its masterpieces from its mediocrities and clarifies its contributions to the long-term arc of design. That&#8217;s the conclusion I reached after a recent tour of the Humana Building. While the building has undeniable flaws, they are easily outweighed by its attributes, which have only grown stronger with time.</p>
<p>To put this 27-story office headquarters &#8212; originally built for $60 million &#8212; into perspective, it is helpful to recall the state of architecture in the early 1980s, when postmodernism was at the height of its influence and architects were in full revolt against the abstract forms of commercial modernism.</p>
<p>Philip Johnson had shocked the architecture world in 1978 when he released the design for the AT&amp;T Building (now Sony Tower) in Manhattan, which resembled a Chippendale highboy. In 1983, New York architects Kohn Pedersen Fox took the epicenter of the glass box, Chicago, by storm with their 333 W. Wacker Drive tower and its elegantly curving wall of green glass along the Chicago River.</p>
<p>Graves, a relatively obscure architect and teacher at Princeton University, was vaulted to stardom in 1980 when he won an international competition for the Portland Public Service Building, a highly decorated box whose design would be seriously compromised by a tight budget. In Humana, a booming hospital company that is now a health insurance provider, he found a client whose ambitions &#8212; and resources &#8212; were an ideal match for his philosophy of contextual design, which called for buildings to reflect their urban surroundings&#8230;..&#8221;<br />
and so it continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light Rail could be Cheap as Chips! by guy</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/03/21/light-rail-could-be-cheap-as-chips/comment-page-1/#comment-4253</link>
		<dc:creator>guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - bit of an odd interlude there while we got attacked by spammers yet again, and our website went down. Hopefully over for now (for good?). Normal service will be resumed shortly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; bit of an odd interlude there while we got attacked by spammers yet again, and our website went down. Hopefully over for now (for good?). Normal service will be resumed shortly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light Rail could be Cheap as Chips! by Stephen</title>
		<link>http://architecture.org.nz/2012/03/21/light-rail-could-be-cheap-as-chips/comment-page-1/#comment-4246</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key point of the Dom Post article is that cheaper LTR solutions that share the roads with other vehicles are not as effective systems that run on separate tracks.  

As a segregated track system would be exponentially more expensive, the DomPost is simply highlighting this fact given Wellington has narrow streets and existing congestion corridors.

In this context – why are LTR systems such as Edmontons being used for cost comparison purposes when their system design, topography and urban density don’t have anything in common with Wellington.  BTW – great google views of this system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key point of the Dom Post article is that cheaper LTR solutions that share the roads with other vehicles are not as effective systems that run on separate tracks.  </p>
<p>As a segregated track system would be exponentially more expensive, the DomPost is simply highlighting this fact given Wellington has narrow streets and existing congestion corridors.</p>
<p>In this context – why are LTR systems such as Edmontons being used for cost comparison purposes when their system design, topography and urban density don’t have anything in common with Wellington.  BTW – great google views of this system.</p>
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